Oh, I adore it once you get the warfare guide out. Oh, who doesn’t love that. I simply carry it with me to events. You’re each in my city this week. How’s D.C. treating you. Have you ever. Have you ever popped all the way down to the White Home but to take a look at Melania’s notorious Christmas decor. Come on, I hope you’re properly. When am I not within the White Home. I imply, actually, I imply, you’re a man of the Trump period. I simply stroll in, I stroll into D.C. and so they’re simply there with open arms. So the gold is gorgeous. They rolled out the gold carpet for you. Effectively, I’d solely say the issue shouldn’t be sufficient gold. If there was just a bit extra gold, I’d be I’d really feel completely happy. O.Ok, be aware I don’t know something about this Christmas show I’ve not paid a lick of consideration to it. Melania yearly has put up some vaguely disturbing one yr it was blood crimson timber. One yr it was just like the White witch of Narnia with all the things, type of useless and crystally, so I at all times stay up for what she’s doing. I type of admire that. I like her being bizarre about Christmas. Effectively, properly, there you go. Jamelle is firmly on the let’s get bizarre about Christmas practice. All proper, so let’s get all the way down to it this week. Along with Christmas, we’re speaking in regards to the president’s reputation among the many American individuals, but additionally particularly inside his personal occasion. So I need to begin with this week’s particular election for the Home in Tennessee’s seventh district. David, it’s proper in your yard. Final yr, as you realize. Trump simply gained it by greater than 20 factors. However then earlier this week, the GOP candidate gained by simply 9. And this was after the occasion sank tens of millions into shoring him up. What does this let you know about what’s happening. Prefer it’s being seen though the Democrats misplaced, its being seen as a really dangerous signal for the president and his occasion. Yeah, for good cause. However earlier than we begin, let me set up my Tennessee seven road cred right here for a minute. Please do. O.Ok, in order that’s my previous district. It was my district till late Might of this yr. So that is the place I spent a variety of time. My sister-in-law was the marketing campaign supervisor for the present Republican mayor within the city, Franklin. That’s a part of that district. My brother-in-law is the chairman of the college board in Williamson County, which is a giant a part of the district is Williamson County. I’ve been residing, consuming, respiratory these native politics for some time now. And I feel right here’s a great way to grasp what’s happening. What you’re taking a look at is the start of the fragmentation of the G.O.P. after the Trump period. So if you happen to take a look at the presidential numbers, that district overwhelmingly Republican loves them some Donald Trump. So plus 22 I imagine in 20 and in 2024 for Trump. And I feel if you happen to had Trump on there on the poll proper now, it will nonetheless be near that. At this level, supporting Trump is only a matter of identification for lots of Republicans. It’s past regular political debate. However if you happen to elevate up the rock right here, you’ll know that in Tennessee. There have been vicious Republican on Republican fights for years. And actually, it’s the struggle is between the extra institution what you may name Reagan Bush wing of the occasion and the brand new rebel a part of the occasion. And people two factions don’t get alongside domestically in any respect. So Mothers for Liberty, for instance, when it was attempting to ban the e book, “Ruby Bridges Goes to Faculty” from the elementary college curriculum. Loads of the individuals who resisted that have been Republicans. When Mothers for Liberty had a giant slate of candidates that it was working in native elections. And once you had extra radical candidates working for, say, mayor, you had massive, intense fights. And these weren’t between Democrats and Republicans. There’s not a ton of Democrats there. I imply, my neighborhood was 85 p.c Republican. It was gerrymandered. Final go round. Oh, completely. And so what you’re seeing, I feel, is the start of the Division of the Republican Celebration post-Trump. Now you’re entering into I don’t like these MAGA guys. I’m bored with this. And I feel that that’s one of many actual tales going ahead. Jamelle, what do you concentrate on it so far as the election outcomes go. Two issues actually strike me. The primary is simply the swing. Like a 13 level swing for a particular election. That’s like. That’s hanging. And what’s much more fascinating is that it’s roughly the very same swing that occurred in New Jersey and Virginia as properly, after all, as a result of these are Democratic leaning states. It resulted in massive Democratic wins, however they’ve having these similar swing in a type of a suburban district in a really completely different political surroundings suggests that truly simply is likely to be the place the nation is true now, a 13 level swing away from Republicans, particularly in suburban areas. And I’ll say, the Republican Celebration nationally is mainly being sustained by overwhelming dominance in rural areas. After which with the ability to win majorities in conservative suburbs. But when the second a part of that equation begins to deteriorate, then it’s massive hassle all over the place. On the finish of the day, most People reside in suburbs. It’s only a numbers sport. And you actually can not maintain a giant nationwide majority. And so if I have been taking a look at this from a 30,000 foot viewpoint, that’s the factor that may actually be conserving me up. Away, up, conserving me up at evening. If I have been a Republican strategist, what’s happening in these suburbs. And are Democrats merely mobilizing extra voters, or was this some persuasion. Is that this some individuals switching sides. And the truth that turnout seems to be about 90 p.c of the 2022 midterm turnout, which is insane. Sometimes, particular election turnout is among the many lowest turnout you may get. That’s why they’re not notably consultant of future traits. However if you happen to’re getting basic election esque numbers in a particular election and you then’re getting a 13 level swing on prime of that, then that does recommend a very good quantity of persuasion taking place that individuals who voted for Republicans within the 2022 cycle voted for the Democrat on this particular election cycle. And that. If it’s like a giant nationwide swing after which there’s persuasion taking place as properly. Persuasion simply basic time period for individuals switching sides, switching sides. Then that’s like early retirement. That’s like if I’m a Republican lawmaker, it’s like I’m going to after Christmas announce that I intend to spend extra time with my household going will likely be fascinating to see what sort of retirement bulletins we get that at all times kicks up after they’ve gone house and spent a while. However one of many issues that I’m all in favour of as properly is if you happen to’re speaking a few 13 level swing, this might make life very fascinating in these locations that Donald Trump has been pushing to redistrict. So then we get into a number of dummy mandering. If you happen to’re speaking a few massive swing, what begins out trying such as you’re rigging issues to your staff might wind up which means that you just’ve truly rigged your self out of some seats. As a result of if you happen to’re taking a look at a very massive swing the best way they gerrymander is that they take these secure seats and so they shuffle issues round so that you just nonetheless have a crimson district, but it surely’s not fairly as crimson. So possibly as an alternative of being plus 10 Republican, it shrinks all the way down to plus 4 Republican. However if you happen to’ve acquired a giant nationwide swing, then you could possibly lose a few of these seats, which I feel could be actually simply type of magic karma. That may be candy. The opposite factor I’ll say is that in a variety of these gerrymandered districts, you have got lawmakers that simply aren’t used to aggressive elections, aggressive partisan elections, proper. However if you happen to’ve been coasting alongside in a gerrymandered district and also you impulsively have somebody out for blood on the opposite aspect or somebody actually hungry and also you’re the winds are in opposition to you as properly, then it’s such as you’re in, you’re in a foul place. Effectively, I’m glad you mentioned that, Jamelle, as a result of if you happen to take a look at the dynamics within the race in Tennessee, Afton being the Democratic candidate, she labored exhausting. She labored actually exhausting. So she leaned into the race. And I feel that that’s one of many issues that led to this sudden alarm from the Nationwide Republican Celebration that, wait, what. This race might be shut. After which belief me, they poured in. The outcomes got here in on each side. Oh, I imply $3.5 million, I feel, for the Republican candidate. Sure it was nuts for particular. It was unreal. I imply, my telephone I’m nonetheless on all these textual content. Donald Trump personally texted me a number of instances to induce me. Sure, I felt — Yeah, completely. However the different factor is that’s very I feel, ominous for Republicans right here is that they have been down 13 factors working in opposition to a left wing Democrat. That is someone who’s referred to as domestically the A.O.C. of Tennessee Yeah that’s not a very good. That’s not a praise in Tennessee for those who’s not a match. She wasn’t a match for the district. So what occurs in case you have Democratic candidates who’re nearer matches for the district. Does that eke out one other 4 p.c to five p.c Possibly we’ll see if the Democratic Celebration is, which is a giant ask. Pondering strategically like subsequent time round, discover somebody who’s a greater match for the district. Like actively recruit and run once more. You’ve type of simply softened the bottom for a possible flip within the subsequent cycle. And to allow them to play all over the place. Subsequent they should play all over the place. I’m a giant believer on this factor of it’s truly essential to lose in ways in which lay the bottom for future wins. You’re not going to win on a regular basis, however you possibly can however working good campaigns frequently builds up an infrastructure. It builds up familiarity and creates the circumstances oh, possibly I can win on this subsequent factor. So what we’re taking a look at now’s a loss that nonetheless a Democratic loss that nonetheless has the Republican Celebration, particularly these in Congress, tremendous nervous. And when that occurs, individuals begin assessing, properly, what do I must do to outlive subsequent yr in the course of the midterms. Trump’s not going to be on the poll. Trump’s reputation is in the bathroom. Loads of issues not likely going his method. How a lot do I begin. Want needing to distance myself from him. So we’ve been seeing some splits. Like most notably, this boat strike kerfuffle this week has prompted not one, however each chambers of Congress to announce investigations with the Armed Providers Committees. The chairmen of these committees saying, we acquired to resolve this. Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Warfare, is taking a variety of warmth on this. And I need to understand how you guys take into consideration this. I imply how critical an issue is that this, both the person situation or simply what it portends? I’d say if you happen to’re taking a look at this, there are a few there are a few elements right here. One is if you’re a Republican for 10 years now, the principle and particularly a Republican member of the Home, the principle risk to your profession has been the disapproval of Donald Trump. However in case you have a scenario the place they’re taking a look at probably a 12 to fifteen to 18 level group swing within the Democratic path, then impulsively you get to numbers like 50, 60, 70, 80 Republicans who the first risk to their profession now begins to shift to turn into the final election voter. And if the final election voter is the first risk to their profession, you then’re going to see extra individuals standing up. As a result of as soon as now, their profession is at stake otherwise. And it’s not that now they could have re they’ll forged it as I’m outraged morally. Solid it in these ethical and strategic phrases. However for a lot of of them, it’s simply the profession. Calculus is shifting. So Jamelle, how have you ever been viewing this boat boat strike dustup, which for many who could not listen. Trump has been the Trump administration has been blowing up boats within the Caribbean saying that they’re working medicine, which this isn’t essentially an unpopular transfer with a variety of his voters. However there’s one episode the place there was a second strike which will or could not have been ordered on some survivors, which can or could not represent a warfare crime. And in order that’s what’s acquired everyone utterly up in arms. So what have you ever been taking a look at particularly with all this, Jamelle. So I need to say actual fast, simply on the substance of all of this, that that is reprehensible. I’m laughing, however. We’re not at warfare with Venezuela, proper. We’re not at warfare with Venezuela. Like, there’s none of that. The administration has offered no proof that these boats are trafficking medicine. And these boats are in worldwide waters. So the administration presents it as we’re destroying terrorists, however take away their spin. What’s truly taking place is the U.S. Navy, underneath orders from the president, is blowing up random boats within the Caribbean and saying, oh, they’re terrorists, which on a broad scale, even underneath essentially the most expansive imaginative and prescient of the Unitary Govt. Article II doesn’t grant the president the proper to make a unilateral designation that somebody is a terrorist going to be murdered by the state. That’s not an influence the president has. So like, I’m sorry. I’m getting animated. I really feel I like the fervour, I prefer it Yeah, I’m at this level proper now the place I gained’t even describe these as potential warfare crimes. That is felony homicide. Like if you happen to have been and this alleged double faucet, if it’s the case that we did an unlawful strike to start with, and blew up this boat. We do not know who these individuals have been. They might have simply been harmless fishermen. After which there’s a second strike at two survivors, which is a no no, David, which is you’re the skilled, which is complete. No, no, I imply, all respect to David and I’ll defer to his experience, however I’ll say this has been a no no since there’s been warfare. That is like if you happen to return to antiquity, you’ll have individuals observing. You may’t try this. It’s acknowledged as part of human civilization, that if there are survivors floating within the water, you have got an obligation to a minimum of not kill them. I simply watched the second Pierce Brosnan James Bond film, “Tomorrow By no means Dies,” and in that movie, one of many inciting incidents by the villain is strictly this the villain has his troopers blow up a ship after which kill the survivors. And it’s an enormous worldwide incident on this planet of the movie, appropriately. And so I simply I actually need to say how completely morally reprehensible that is. And if it’s the case that Pete Hegseth ordered that second strike, that for my part, he needs to be arrested and held criminally chargeable for murder as a result of that’s what it’s. So my suspicion is that there have been loads of Republicans who have been very squishy about this, however they have been nonetheless type of going alongside. Once more, you don’t need to get Trump upset with you. And this simply offers them a chance, mixed with all the different softening of his reputation and getting their clocks cleaned within the November elections, that is simply their alternative to separate themselves from one thing they have been actually sad about anyway. And I feel your suggestion, Michelle, that if Trump weren’t if this have been February of this yr, you won’t have. A lot talking up. It’d be far more possibly behind the scenes like, we needs to be doing this. However the truth that polls are constantly displaying Trump within the mid seconds to the very low 40s. it’s like this man. For comparability’s sake, when George W. Bush left workplace in 2009, his approval was about 33 p.c proper. So like Trump proper now’s in late stage W territory. Effectively, this is among the issues I’m desirous about normally. I feel the calendar has come into play right here. He’s a second time period president. He’s a lame duck. And also you mix that along with his type of sliding reputation. He’s underwater on just about all the problems, even immigration, which he was doing fairly properly for some time there. That was the very last thing to go. After which they’d that very upsetting type of off yr November election that’s at all times seen as a referendum on the president. So yeah, if we have been again in February or if he have been fashionable or if he weren’t a second time period president, all of these issues might make a distinction. However as a result of we’re the place we’re, I feel he’s getting into a section that’s simply going to be more and more irritating for him as a result of there’s, on stability, going to be increasingly impetus for Republican lawmakers to try to separate themselves. So it’s telling to me that in all of this, 99 p.c of the warmth is being geared toward Hegseth and never Trump. And so we’re nonetheless on this dynamic the place the permission construction permits Republicans to struggle one another. One layer beneath Trump, however nonetheless not likely about Trump. However simply to Jamelle’s level. And I’m very glad that Jamelle interjected and introduced this level in. And also you’re very form to say that I’ve experience, however I’ll say that experience right here shouldn’t be obligatory within the slightest. Simply literacy. Literacy O.Ok, so let me learn. Let me learn from web page 1088 of the Division of Protection legislation of warfare guide. Oh, I adore it once you get the warfare guide out. Oh, who doesn’t love that. I simply carry it with me to events as a result of persons are enjoyable at events. Oh, I’m the perfect. So the requirement to refuse to adjust to orders to commit legislation of warfare violations applies to orders to carry out conduct that’s clearly unlawful, or orders that the subordinate is aware of, in truth, are unlawful. For instance, orders to fireside upon the shipwrecked could be clearly unlawful. What are we doing right here. That’s simply black and white stuff proper there. And I agree with all the things that Jamal mentioned in regards to the underlying legality of the particular strikes themselves. There’s no congressional authorization. There’s no act of warfare. Crime shouldn’t be warfare. Suspected criminals should not terrorists. And if you wish to see the absurdity of all of it, you’ll see that the administration is saying, properly, the second strike was fantastic as a result of these terrorists or these drug runners, no matter, have been, quote, nonetheless within the struggle. What struggle to a ship. What struggle. And it’s fascinating how one can see how this simply doesn’t match throughout the warfare paradigm. So for instance, if you’re in warfare on the excessive seas and a ship is burning, you possibly can preserve firing on that ship till it ceases fireplace or it strikes its colours. So that is designed for Navy on Navy fight. What’s the equal right here. I imply, the speedboat goes down, after which impulsively it blows up. It’s one of many surviving members of the crew presupposed to say, strike the colours, lads. The Navy has bested us. No. What are we doing right here. And so that is being handled with abstract executions that we’d name homicide in America. If you happen to’re in America and also you see someone working away and also you suppose that they’ve medicine, you possibly can’t gun them down. You may’t even gun them down if they’ve medicine. With crime and historically we now have used we now have used the Coast Guard. We’ve got used army property for drug interdiction up to now. However what we do. We cease, we search and we arrest, after which we prosecute. And guess what. That’s higher. That’s higher than simply blowing individuals up as a result of you possibly can’t query a useless particular person. I need to broaden this again past simply the boat strike incident to he. President Trump is taking an terrible lot of warmth over his Ukraine peace plan. Individuals have gotten from his congressional staff. Individuals are pushing again on that. The Jeffrey Epstein mess was an abject catastrophe for him. There are just a few cracks that he can’t fairly management. Mike Johnson needed to inform the White Home, the speaker needed to inform the White Home that the president’s thought for increasing Obamacare subsidies was not taking part in within the Home. And this stuff they will at all times come again to this and go to once more. However persons are beginning to say, no, I don’t suppose I’m simply going to go alongside instantly. We’re going to struggle this out just a little extra. And I do suppose that whilst you’ll see it focused at one stage beneath Trump, resisting Trump’s will or complaining about Trump’s insurance policies goes to turn into a extra frequent factor. And I don’t suppose that it helps that there’s this sense that Trump, along with being a lame duck, can also be slipping. I imply, there have been one other story about how he retains falling asleep in the course of the Oval Workplace conferences, issues like that. I feel as soon as individuals begin smelling blood within the water or little virility slippage, that simply goes to speed up this complete course of. I’ll additionally say, presidents, in a position, succesful presidents. It is a good one succesful ones can reply to occasions. They’ll make course changes to attempt to get better their public standing as a result of they acknowledge that they want public opinion, public assist is a vital useful resource that they must Marshal to be able to pursue their agendas. And half there’s a pair I imply, there are a lot of issues with Trump. One of many. Simply political issues is that as a result of he isn’t actually that all in favour of governing, as a result of he’s principally all in favour of self-aggrandizement and lining its pockets, it looks like he’s not so conscious of public opinion in the best way {that a} president with an precise governing agenda is likely to be conscious of public opinion, and he has no want or sees no level in attempting to recoup or save or Marshal these sources for future agenda gadgets. After which he himself personally is like as a persona doesn’t have another mode, however relentless escalation. And so if he’s getting into a scenario the place his reputation is on the decline, the place he appears to be a lame duck, there are precedents proper from previous presidents for the way you may deal with that scenario. He can’t do it like on a really fundamental stage, he can’t do it. And so one factor I feel to look forward. There’s going to there will likely be crises. There will likely be challenges. Is the president outfitted both politically or psychologically, to deal with them in a method that may bolster his standing with the general public. And I feel the reply is not any. And so I’m not going to make any predictions, however I’ll say it feels as if proper now’s the most well-liked he’s going to be. Effectively, I’ve A.I. have a fundamental query going backwards. Do we expect he is aware of what the scenario is like. Who’s going to inform him. I imply, is JD Vance, who mainly is sucking up as exhausting as he can at any given second. Is he going to March in there and say, sir, we now have an issue. I imply, who’s in that place. I imply, is he even conscious. That’s an ideal query. And I’d say no. He’s a lot about being president. I wrote about this final yr earlier than the election, and it was identical to one among my frustrations about election protection, which is that we speak in regards to the presidency by way of coverage. However like in an actual sense the president can’t try this a lot coverage smart, instantly. The president ought to have a legislative agenda, ought to have some sense of what they need to do with the chief businesses. However the job of the presidency isn’t a coverage job. It’s a administration job. And all administration jobs, all administration jobs are basically data jobs. They’re about cultivating data. They’re about filtering data. They’re about processing data, and so they’re about getting the perfect data you possibly can to make choices. And the presidency particularly is bombarded with data. But additionally good presidents are conscious that the perfect sorts of knowledge they will get is commonly political data, how the dynamics of the businesses are trying how the dynamics in Congress are working, how all the things appears to be like from a political standpoint. And Trump has created this bubble for himself the place none of that data will get in. Like, none of it in any way. He’s utterly he’s like blind to a lot of the mandatory data for simply being a barely competent president. So I feel you’re proper, Michelle, to recommend that stuff about public opinion stuff about his standing, he simply could not even concentrate on it. Does that make him like, if he has any sense of this as he goes alongside as a lame duck, or if he simply will get vibe that he’s being dealt with in another way in Congress, does this make him roughly harmful. Do we expect as he enters this New section. Oh, I feel he’s going to be extra harmful, however with the potential ameliorating impact of Congress being much less loyal. And so if Congress is much less loyal, they will mood his worst impulses. However how we’re in a race. We’re in a race between Trump’s hazard and congressional revival. And these two issues go hand in hand. However one factor in regards to the Trump bubble, I’d say, is that primary, I feel it’s simply true that each one presidents are in a bubble to some extent Yeah and it’s a bubble that it simply exists naturally, as a result of we human beings have bizarre reactions to each fame and energy. And so a president is each essentially the most well-known or one of the crucial well-known individuals on this planet and essentially the most highly effective concurrently. And they also’re used to interacting with human beings who’re impacted by that presence. And so there it’s tough to reside in a Fact based mostly surroundings in that circumstance, simply usually. So it’s a must to truly attempt to encourage individuals to talk reality to you, to disagree with you. And this is among the the reason why there’s this lengthy latest historical past of incumbent presidents not doing very properly of their first debate, their first presidential debate. 84 Reagan type of falls on his face in entrance of Mondale. 2012 Obama doesn’t do his finest job in opposition to Romney. And so, in each circumstances, ‘84 and 2012, they righted the ship the second time. I feel the Biden debate is partly a product of that. Who does this debate on these phrases and people timing, in the event that they’re residing in a Fact based mostly surroundings. However then with Trump flip it as you do with all issues. You simply flip it to 11 as a result of take a look at the cupboard assembly. Is he residing in a reality based mostly surroundings. In no way, not at all. And so this concept that what he’s doing won’t be fashionable, that persons are rejecting it, that his legacy might be in ruins in a comparatively quick order. All of that, I feel, is simply alien to him proper now, simply alien and compounding. It is also that MAGA is, imagine it or not, extra on-line than the wokest wokes individuals on the left in 2019 and 2020 that they’ve taken the issue that Democrats had years within the latest previous to being too on-line and so they’ve turned that one to 11 to the purpose now the place you have got main figures within the Trump administration who’re far more targeted on what obscure offended podcasters on the proper say about them. Then they’re involved a few 38 p.c approval score within the bigger public. And they also’re continuously tacking in direction of the pet offended problems with the MAGA podcasting base. And that’s simply going to make all of this worse. That simply reinforces the partitions of the bubble. Effectively, on that magical be aware, I say we land this airplane. And earlier than we go, I want to listen to from you. It’s advice time. What you bought for me. I’ve been studying a really fascinating e book. It’s referred to as – It’s by the nice Civil Warfare historian James McPherson Dean of Civil Warfare historians. His Pulitzer Prize profitable quantity, I imagine, gained the Pulitzer Prize, the Bancroft Prize, one of many two on all the warfare “Battle Cry of Freedom.” I nonetheless advocate to individuals like because the one factor it is best to learn in regards to the Civil Warfare. I not too long ago completed a set of essays he wrote within the mid 90s, drawn with the sword, that are nice, however I’m recommending more moderen work from 2014. It’s referred to as “Embattled: Insurgent Jefferson Davis and the Accomplice Civil Warfare,” and it’s a research of Davis as president of the Confederacy, as chief of the Accomplice army effort, and attempting to supply a nuanced and balanced perspective on Jefferson’s conduct or Davis’s conduct. Conduct as Accomplice president. I feel it’s fascinating. I suppose some viewers, listeners could also be stunned that I’m all in favour of studying these things, however I’m within the Civil Warfare typically, and I’m all in favour of each side of the battle. And McPherson’s a part of McPherson’s argument is that Davis is commonly blamed for the Confederates defeat, however he tries to make the case that Davis, greater than just about another political chief within the Confederacy, at all times understood that the objective of the struggle was profitable Accomplice independence, not essentially beating the union militarily, and that this singular focus extra doubtless than not, truly saved the Confederacy within the struggle longer than it ought to have been based mostly off of its sources and its standing on the outset of the warfare. So it’s a revisionist tackle Davis’s management in the course of the Civil Warfare, and I simply discover that actually fascinating. Wonderful if that type of factor sounds fascinating to you, advocate the e book. All proper. David properly, Jamelle, that type of factor sounds fascinating to me, and I can’t and I can’t agree extra on McPherson’s “Battle Cry of Freedom.” If you develop up within the South like I did, I used to be in faculty earlier than I used to be taught something aside from the misplaced trigger story. And in case you have grown up steeped in misplaced causes, battle cry freedom will blow up that paradigm. Simply annihilate that paradigm. So I’m going to depart from my regular streaming advice, which pains me as a result of I’ve one, however I’ll save that. I’ll save that for subsequent week. I’ve acquired a e book suggestions. It’s not a model new e book. It’s referred to as “France: The Darkish Years” by Julian Jackson, a British historian. And it’s tracing France, Vichy France, 1940 to 1944. And it’s so fascinating and it’s so fascinating on a really explicit foundation. And that’s once you learn it and also you learn the ideology and crucially, the theology of Vichy France and the petain authorities. It’s going to sound eerily like elements of the MAGA Christian nationalist proper. Eerily in different phrases, far more involved in regards to the leftist enemy inside than the enemy. With out a lot quite a lot of concentrate on recreating the spiritual family because the centerpiece of the society. A doubling down on faith and work, versus liberalism and liberty. And so there was it’s very fascinating. And also you understand they’d this very coherent ideology and theology that allowed them to accommodate themselves to Hitler whereas believing they’re being good individuals by purging the worst components of what they deem to be the worst components of French society. And it’s chilling and shockingly related, so I actually advocate it. O.Ok, that’s simply can I throw in some supplementary materials that’s, I assume, one thing of a streaming advice, which is the 1969 documentary “The Sorrow and the Pity,” which is in regards to the Vichy France and Nazi Germany and the collaboration and includes, because it’s 69. It includes a variety of interviews with collaborators and individuals who have been concerned within the regime. It’s 4 hours lengthy. It’s lengthy, but it surely’s an actual masterpiece of documentary filmmaking. And I extremely advocate it. Isn’t that what Woody Allen is at all times speaking about in “Annie Corridor.” Possibly. it’s been a few years since I noticed “Annie Corridor.” All proper. Effectively, I’m going to take David’s streaming hole and fill it. I’m an enormous Landman fan. For many who don’t watch Taylor Sheridan did “Yellowstone.” I acquired bored with the “Yellowstone” universe after just a few seasons, vastly fashionable. However he additionally has moved his consideration to West Texas. And Billy Bob Thornton performs an oil landman. He’s on the market coping with the cartels the environmentalists and all of this. And we’ve simply began season two. It’s the finest I’ve ever seen Billy Bob Thornton in something through the years. That’s saying one thing. And he’s been good in a variety of issues and now they’ve promised me some Sam Elliott who I’ll simply watch Sam Elliott do something. I’m sorry. Like, I don’t even care. He can simply learn the telephone e book to me and I’ll watch it. So I’m simply saying we’re about, only a few seasons in, but it surely makes West Texas oil fields, the roughnecks and wildcatters. It’s so entertaining. I’ve to extremely advocate. I imply, if you happen to discuss Sam Elliott, you possibly can’t discuss Sam Elliott with out speaking about one of many biggest classics in American cinema. “Highway Home.” “Highway Home.” Thanks. Sure, Michelle. Finest dangerous film ever. You’re my finest good friend, Michelle, for figuring out that. The truth is, once we’re performed right here, you’re simply going to return over and we’re going to spend the afternoon watching “Highway Home.” Jamelle, you’re invited. I used to be going to recommend we go to the White Home, however that is higher. I used to be simply going to say “Highway Home” isn’t a foul film, although. It’s good. Jamelle, it’s unambiguously good. It’s magic. That’s what we’re going to say. It’s. All proper, guys, with that, I’m going to free you. Thanks a lot, as at all times. Let’s do it once more. At all times a pleasure. Thanks, Michelle. Bye.
