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    Will NATO & Europe Be Down For The Count With WWIII?

    Ironside NewsBy Ironside NewsDecember 9, 2025No Comments14 Mins Read
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    COMMENT: Marty, Thanks for the WEC. I agree with many, it was your finest ever. I’ve re-watched it twice and choose up new issues each time. The distinction of arrays on Europe vs USA confirms sadly that Socrates can be appropriate and your effort to stop WWIII will fail. Nevertheless it does seem that you could be reach maintaining the US out of struggle right here in Europe. I’m taking my household out of right here. They’re introducing a conscription bill right here in Germany. Thanks for that. You possibly can odor struggle is within the air. The press is not going to inform the reality and there may be nothing Putin can do or say that they don’t criticize and subconsciously are telling Europeans Russia is weak and may be simply defeated.

    Our European powers have once more rallied behind Ukraine on Monday after President Trump blasted Zelensky a day prior, accusing him of not bothering to learn the U.S.-proposed peace plan to finish the Russia-Ukraine struggle. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer mentioned: “We stand with Ukraine.” German Chancellor Merz and French President Macron concurred.

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    Right here in Germany, DER SPIEGEL, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz and French President Emmanuel Macron in a secret name mentioned that the U.S. might betray Ukraine and Europe. I feel that is in keeping with your peace plan and so they reject. They didn’t wish to hear Trump say that Europe is erasing its tradition with migration and has develop into irrelevant.

    No person appears to ask what number of Europeans are they keen to sacrifice this time for struggle? I might have thought Europe would have realized. That clip you had of Merkel and Hollande saying the aim of making the EU was to remove struggle appears to solely consult with internally. So now they need all of Europe to invade Russia. It by no means ends. I actually don’t perceive why humanity at all times loves struggle.

    PVB

    ECM Euro Waves 1 2

    REPLY: We’re about to enter the third Wave 2026.03137 (January 11-12, 2026). It’s extremely questionable if the EU will survive past 2030.330137. Europe won’t ever settle for peace as a result of these leaders are broke and they’re robbing Russians in entrance of the complete world.

    2025_12_08_21_33_13_Europe_nears_deal_on_Russian_assets_after_talks_in_London

    As much as 80% of the “Russian Property” which were seized, belong to Russian people – not the state. On the private-side: reporting in 2023 estimated that personal Russian property topic to freeze within the EU (yachts, villas, personal accounts, company holdings, and many others.) amounted to about US $58 billion. However the international reserves that had been seized aren’t purely state belongings. The central financial institution was holding international accounts of all varied Russian firms and people doing enterprise with the West. This can be a violation of Worldwide Legislation and the EU doesn’t give a shit as a result of the European Press is so anti-Russia that they’ll by no means report the reality.

    As of early 2025, Swiss authorities reported that round 7.4 billion Swiss francs (≈ US $8.4 billion) in Russian-owned belongings had been frozen. That features belongings linked to people / firms topic to sanctions (actual property, luxurious items, and many others.) in addition to holdings tied to the Russian Central Financial institution.  Underneath Swiss regulation, outright confiscation of legally acquired personal belongings of Russians — just because they’re Russian — was deemed unconstitutional (as of 2023) by the Swiss Federal Council (not a “courtroom”) on February fifteenth, 2023 accepted the conclusion of a working group from the Federal Workplace of Justice (FOJ) that confiscation of frozen personal Russian belongings can be unconstitutional below Swiss regulation and violate the authorized order.

    The lies that the EU are utilizing is let’s imagine you might have cash on deposite in a financial institution, that financial institution then locations reserves on the central financial institution, the EU seizes all of the belongings of the Russian central financial institution and faux they’re the belongings of the state. They’re clearly displaying that the EU can’t be trusted and any non-European shopper with funds within the EU shoi;d get the funds out of there earlier than you’ll by no means see them once more. One distinguished case concerned Mikhail Fridman, a Russian oligarch. In April 2024, a courtroom inside the EU system (the Common Court docket of the European Union) dominated there was inadequate proof to maintain him on the sanctions record. That successfully challenged the freeze on his belongings below EU sanctions — a minimum of insofar because the justification for itemizing him was involved. Following that, Fridman initiated additional authorized motion: he sued a nationwide authorities (of Luxembourg) over damages arising from his asset freeze, and has additionally launched arbitration below worldwide investment-treaty guidelines.

    2014 April 23 Anti Terrorist Operation

    The EU has violated worldwide regulation and has ignored the truth that the Ukrainian Civil Struggle was instigated by Ukrainians in Kiev and categorized everybody within the Donbas as a Terrorist. Putin even requested that they rescind that terrorist classification to justify attacking the ethic Russians in Crimea and the Donbas.

    May 2 2014 Odessa Trade Unions House

    Solely after the Ukrainians had been brazenly killing Russians on the streets of Odessa and burned them alive did the Donbas declare its independence for which Kiev then declared them to be terrorists. The West wished this struggle with Russia and the press refuses to report the reality cheering on World Struggle III with each story they write. Our pc warns this would be the finish of European civilization.

    Billions are vanishing and these politicians converse nothing in regards to the corruption in Ukraine which makes one surprise what they’re making on the sidelines? Public reporting on precisely which European firms have lively contracts to produce weapons to Ukraine is usually partial, aggregated, or confidential to guard politicians. Many supply-contracts are mediated through governments, export licences, or procurement coalitions. The truth that these politicians NEVER criticize  Zelensky for the corruption is telling implying they’ve their hand on this cookie jar.

    Even when firms are recognized, shareholding information of particular person EU politicians (members of parliaments, governments, and many others.) is often very opaque, not often if ever disclosed in a manner that connects them to defense-industry shareholdings — which means publicly documented instances are very restricted. That mentioned, some European firms recognized to produce Ukraine (or facilitate provides), there may be little or no verifiable public proof that EU-politicians are vital shareholders in them.

    Czechoslovak Group (CSG) protection conglomerate has explicitly equipped Ukraine. In line with publicly obtainable information, in 2022 roughly 41% of its income got here from deliveries to Ukraine; in 2023 it was round 23%. Its exports embody 155 mm and 152 mm artillery rounds, T-72 “Avenger” tanks, BMP-1/2 infantry combating autos, multiple-launch rocket techniques (e.g. RM-70 Vampire, BM-21 MT STRIGA), self-propelled howitzers (DANA M2, DITA), amongst others.

    Then there may be Rheinmetall (Germany). Once more, I discovered no public breakdown displaying “Rheinmetall → Ukraine” below a named contract. But, Rheinmetall is broadly considered one of many main European protection producers benefiting from the surge in European army spending tied to the struggle. Its enterprise increase is strongly correlated with elevated demand for ammunition, armored autos, and different army gear in response to the struggle.

    Smaller or mid-sized European corporations are additionally on the take. The variety of smaller or midsize European ammunition / defense-component corporations are in provide chains that now assist Ukraine or NATO rearmament. As an illustration, a 2025 tutorial research on European ammunition & grenade manufacturing outlines structural shifts in supply-chains, partly pushed by demand associated to Ukraine as reported within the Scandinavian Journal of Navy Research.

    As well as, institutional choices inside the European Union have bolstered these flows of cash for arming Ukraine. As of early 2025, Protection Information evaluation estimates that about 60% of complete help is used within the U.S., about 25% is spent in Ukraine, and the remaining ≈15% elsewhere. In November 2025, EU lawmakers voted to deepen integration between the EU protection {industry} and Ukraine — below a programme allocating €1.5 billion, together with €300 million for a “Ukraine Assist Instrument.” That means EU-based protection contractors (like CSG, Rheinmetall, and others) are probably beneficiaries with out and disclosure if any politicians are personally benefiting like Pelosi in america.

    Regardless of substantial arms enterprise, I discovered nearly no credible, publicly verifiable instances the place an EU politician is documented as a shareholder — or main shareholder — in an organization supplying Ukraine. That is merely being lined up. Shareholding disclosures for a lot of European politicians don’t at all times require them to declare holdings in privately held or private firms (particularly protection corporations). They made positive the legal guidelines they write at all times exonerate themselves.

    Even when holdings are declared, they not often specify the dimensions, affiliated subsidiaries, or whether or not the corporate has protection contracts — so linking a politician to “arms provide to Ukraine” turns into practically not possible. I’ve discovered NOBODY within the press who has even bothered to produce any well-documented examples of a sitting EU politician with materials shareholding in a agency recognized to produce Ukraine. WHY? Curiously, a 2025 Scandinavian Journal of Navy Research on ammunition supply-chains mentions “firms and inter-institutional relationships,” however doesn’t doc any politician possession.

    Many protection corporations are privately held or structured through holding firms / trusts, which makes public shareholding disclosures tougher to hint. There aren’t any political transparency guidelines value something and so they fluctuate considerably throughout EU member states. Some require solely restricted disclosure; in others politicians might maintain stakes not directly (through holdings, blind trusts, household companies, pension funds), complicating public traceability.

    What we do know is definite, is that contract arms pipelines sometimes contain governments, intermediaries, export licences, not direct industrial gross sales — which means “firm X provides Ukraine” might not seem in public procurement lists even when gear finally ends up on the battlefield.

    EU vs Russia

    The mixture of opacity (in shareholding) and oblique contract pipelines signifies that even well-informed public investigations might miss such connections as a result of that is stored very behind the scenes. When these politicians consistently advocate struggle, if they’re making a fortune on supplying Ukraine and sending individuals to their deaths, it appears no one is keen to even open the door and ask a query when European Struggle is now changing into inevitable.

    UK Debt 1692 2012

    The US grew to become the monetary capital of the world after Britain entered World Struggle I with no direct risk in opposition to the British individuals. Britain’s official declaration of struggle on August 4th, 1914, was primarily in response to Germany’s violation of Belgian neutrality. Nonetheless, the explanations had been extra deeply rooted. Britain was not threatened. It claimed that the Belgian Neutrality Treaty (1839) was violated as a result of Germany’s Schlieffen Plan required invading France via impartial Belgium. Britain was a guarantor (together with different powers) of Belgian neutrality below the 1839 Treaty of London. Ignoring this violation, Britain claimed it will name into query their credibility as a treaty guarantor and nice energy. That call ended London because the monetary capital of the world and it moved to New York.

    Russian Roulette with Nuclear Weapons

     

    I’ve been combating onerous behind the scenes to maintain the US out of this subsequent European Struggle to overcome Russia. They are going to lose. They’re enjoying Russian Roulette with Nuclear Weapons. NATO claims Russia won’t ever push the button as a result of they know what that may imply. However because the EU is NOT making an attempt to drive Russia out of Ukraine, that is in regards to the conquest of Russia. If I used to be Putin and I do know the target is to completely destroy Russia, I might push the button.

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    Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone, chair of NATO’s Navy Committee, has not too long ago advised {that a} “pre-emptive strike” in opposition to Russia might, below sure circumstances, be justified as a type of defensive motion. He argued that NATO must shift from being purely reactive (responding after assaults) to probably “being extra aggressive or proactive as a substitute of reactive.” He acknowledged that contemplating “pre-emptive strikes” would depart from NATO’s conventional posture — however that below the stress of ongoing “hybrid warfare” (cyber-attacks, sabotage, airspace violations, and many others.), such choices are being studied. He particularly mentioned that in sure contexts a pre-emptive strike “might be thought of a defensive motion.”

    That is what I’ve warned about. There are NO RATIONAL individuals in NATO. What he’s justifying is I stroll right into a bar and punch you within the face calling it self-defense as a result of if KNOW you actually wished to hit me first. If we strip away the Ukrainian BS and propaganda, dependable sources in Ukraine verify that Russia has used hypersonic missiles and Ukraine declare that they’ve been capable of intercept them 25% of the time is nonsense. They need to launch all 32 missiles of a Patriot Missile System to actually have a doable likelihood at interception. As with every part Ukraine places out, there may be hardly something that may be verifiable. They’re extra involved about pretending that they’re profitable to maintain the cash flowing in for his or her Lamborghinis and Ferraris in Monaco. Europe shouldn’t be going to carry up very effectively in a battle with Russia – it’s suicide.

    NATO ECM A

    I can’t take credit score for turning Trump. Maybe I’ve contributed, however I’ve no affirmation. His new technique warns Europe faces “the actual and extra stark prospect of civilizational erasure.”  It additionally asserts that if present-day developments proceed with immigration, demographic shifts, low beginning charges, cultural/political adjustments, and suppression of free speech or democratic norms, “the continent can be unrecognizable in 20 years or much less.” Sure, that is what our mannequin is forecasting. The EU might not exist submit 2030. Trump’s technique additionally says some NATO members “will develop into majority non-European,” and that raises “open questions” about whether or not they’ll see their alliance with the U.S. the identical manner as unique members. We’re finishing the third wave by September 2nd, 2026. Right here too, NATO and the Neocon started to implement this struggle with Russia in 2021 which was 72 years from its founding in 1949. NATO is in its loss of life throes between 2026 and 2030.

    Neocon Darkness

    Humanity’s gravitation towards struggle is a deeply complicated phenomenon with roots in a number of overlapping domains—psychological, social, financial, political, and evolutionary. Quite than a single trigger, it’s higher understood as a tragic interaction of many components. People who find themselves drawn to positions of energy involving battle are deeply entrenched in tribalism. People developed in teams that competed for sources. This fostered sturdy in-group/out-group dynamics, the place loyalty to at least one’s group and suspicion or hostility towards outsiders might improve survival. Struggle emerges from such individuals due to their flawed character. It’s amplified group id—nationalism, ethnicity, faith, or ideology.

    Reagan in quest of peace

    The Neocons instructed President Reagan he shouldn’t meet with Gorbachev though they might not name him a communist, so that they reverted to tribalism telling Reagan “you possibly can by no means belief a Russian.” There isn’t a dialogue with these individuals. I’ve tried and so they have solely confirmed that I used to be an idealistic idiot who although I might make then search the sunshine as a substitute the darkness they carry with them. They at all times reject peace and stay consumed by their hatred.

    Thrasymachus Quote

    States and rulers have typically used struggle to consolidate energy, divert consideration from home issues, or obtain geopolitical targets. The realist is pressured to argue that in a world (it doesn’t matter what its kind Republic, Democracy, Dictatorship, or Monarchy), the thirst for energy is similar simply as justice is similar whatever the type of authorities. Corruption, authoritarianism, lack of democratic checks, and poor governance could make struggle extra probably. Leaders will far too typically prioritize private or regime survival over peace as we’re witnessing in Europe rigt now. Traditionally, empires expanded via warfare, pushed by financial exploitation and ideological beliefs in supremacy. The legacy of arbitrary borders and exploited grievances continues to gasoline conflicts. Proper now, European leaders are being pushed by financial necessity to retain energy, however concurrently, they’re blinded by ideological beliefs in supremacy that they’ll displace america and rise from the ashes this time from struggle.

    Euro Over the Edge



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