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What Stephen Miller Is Signaling to ICE Officers
Stephen Miller’s public endorsement of aggressive ICE ways marks a brand new chapter in American immigration enforcement, says Caitlin Dickerson, a journalist, on “The Ezra Klein Present.”
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I wish to play you a clip from Steven Miller, who went on TV to ship a message to ICE brokers below hearth for brutality and aggression. “To all ICE officers: You may have federal immunity within the conduct of your duties. And anyone who lays a hand on you or tries to cease you or tries to hinder you is committing a felony. You may have immunity to carry out your duties. And nobody, no metropolis official, no state official, no unlawful alien, no leftist agitator or home insurrectionist, can forestall you from fulfilling your authorized obligations and duties. And the Division of Justice has made clear that if officers cross that line into obstruction, into prison conspiracy towards the USA or towards ICE officers, then they’ll face justice.” What do you make of that? I make of that that Miller is making an attempt to speak to ICE, and to those new members of ICE specifically, that they won’t face penalties to be used of pressure particularly. I feel he’s talking to the ICE officer who shot Renee Good in Minnesota final week and killed her, but in addition to officers who’ve used tear fuel, who’ve pushed and shoved and arrested protesters who’ve claimed that people who find themselves filming them are impeding arrests and utilizing that as a pretense to both take these individuals into custody or have some violent altercation with them. It is vitally hanging. I used to be speaking to 1 former ICE official who advised me that you’d at all times concern discharging your weapon in an interplay, even a probably violent and a harmful one. Normally the priority was that officers could be too unwilling to make use of their gun as a result of they nervous about potential repercussions. And there have been all these layers of investigation that will happen after a taking pictures. And so his concern when he was in ICE for 30 years was that he wouldn’t use his gun in a second when he wanted to. And now it’s nearly as if the other concern is true. And we’ve seen inside ICE individuals shedding their jobs. Excessive-level officers shedding their jobs as a result of they’re not delivering sufficient deportations. They’re not being aggressive sufficient. And so I feel Miller is simply underscoring that argument that you just’re not going to get in hassle for being too aggressive. And actually, the one factor you’re going to get in hassle for isn’t being aggressive sufficient.
By ‘The Ezra Klein Present’
January 23, 2026