HBO’s resident liberal loudmouth Invoice Maher thought he’d nook journalist Batya Ungar-Sargon on his present Actual Time—and boy, did he decide the mistaken battle.
Maher tried to grill Ungar-Sargon over her unapologetic help for President Donald Trump, solely to get a masterclass in why the MAGA motion is resonating with Individuals fed up with the institution.
Ungar-Sargon identified what Maher and the leftist elites refuse to confess: Trump didn’t simply change the Republican Celebration—he uncovered the Democrats because the celebration of the globalist elite, limitless wars, and company greed.
Maybe probably the most devastating second for Maher was when Ungar-Sargon uncovered the true motive why so many blue-collar Individuals have shifted to Trump: the Democrats deserted them.
She laid out the chilly, onerous fact that Democrats not solely shipped American jobs abroad with disastrous free commerce insurance policies, however then flooded the nation with unlawful migrants to compete for the few jobs that remained.
Transcript:
Invoice Maher:
Okay, so identical to I mentioned, we don’t have time to fiddle. I acquired to go proper at you as a result of I’ve recognized you for some time, and once I first learn you, you had been a conservative Republican, however not loopy. I learn you in… the place? Newsweek? Time journal? I’m not saying you’re loopy now, I used to be simply going to say that. However you went from simply leaning proper to a Trump supporter, okay? Some place I might by no means go.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
I imply, the evening is younger, Invoice.
Invoice Maher:
It’s not ever going to be that younger. I’m simply questioning what you suppose now. We’re approaching two months in. I imply, you will need to have a sense in your intestine—look me within the eye and inform me you don’t—that that is actually going badly, and I shouldn’t have thrown my lot in with this staff.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
Oh no, I really feel the other.
Invoice Maher:
All proper.
Invoice Maher:
Inform me why.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
I’m so sorry, although.
Invoice Maher:
No, inform me why.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
No, I really feel so pleased with… I imply, I used to be by no means a Republican or a conservative. I used to be a leftist, and I’m nonetheless a leftist. I’m only a MAGA leftist now as a result of—
Invoice Maher:
That is not sensible.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
Would you want me to elucidate it to you?
Invoice Maher:
Please do. Sure, please.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
Once I take a look at what President Trump ran on and the agenda that he’s enacting proper now, he took a Republican Celebration that was constructed on social conservatism, overseas interventions and wars, and free commerce and free markets. He principally took an ax to all of these. Throughout the marketing campaign, he mentioned—look, he’s fairly pro-gay. That’s fairly apparent. He appointed the highest-ranking overtly homosexual individual, Scott Bessent, as our Secretary of Treasury, which is unimaginable. He sidelined the pro-life wing of his celebration.
Invoice Maher:
He has modified the celebration for certain.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
Okay, so he believes abortion needs to be authorized for 12 weeks.
Invoice Maher:
However free commerce—you talked about?
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
On overseas intervention, he’s anti-war. He’s attempting to deliver an finish to all of those wars, okay?
Invoice Maher:
By surrendering, however sure.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
Okay.
Invoice Maher:
That’s one solution to finish a conflict.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
Nicely, he’s on the opposite aspect of one other celebration that’s fairly pro-war and needs to maintain the conflict going, proper?
Invoice Maher:
However what about these—
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
Okay, so let me simply get to the third level. The third level is that he’s not totally free commerce. He doesn’t imagine in free commerce. He checked out our destroyed manufacturing base. He appeared on the downwardly cell working class. He checked out the truth that working-class Individuals can not afford the American dream. He checked out why that was—which was that there was a handshake settlement between each events that we must always by some means have free commerce, which resulted in delivery 5 million good manufacturing jobs abroad to construct up China and Mexico.
Invoice Maher:
And a few got here right here.
Batya Ungar-Sargon:
No, what they did was they introduced in hundreds of thousands and hundreds of thousands of unlawful migrants to compete with the roles that remained right here. And what Donald Trump mentioned was, “We now have to cease promoting out the working class.” That agenda that he laid out—socially reasonable, anti-war, and anti-free commerce protectionist—is a leftist agenda.
Invoice Maher:
Sam, I’ll deliver you in. I swear to God.